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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 23, 2009 9:47:42 GMT -5
Please verify your rosters and post any required player drops asap to meet the 25-man limit, if you are over. I'm looking to load rosters on Yahoo some time soon.
Thanks.
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Post by Former I'm Not Creative (INC) on Mar 23, 2009 12:29:13 GMT -5
Are we posting them in our teams roster thread or sending them to you in a PM?
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 23, 2009 12:37:17 GMT -5
Either way is fine in the case where you need to meet the 25-man limit. In the case where you just want to open up more roster spots for the FA Draft, it's still best to just PM the Commish Office account w/ your drop list. |
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Post by The Birds (Davey Johnson) on Mar 23, 2009 14:00:32 GMT -5
Are we keeping the "Wait until called up to Majors" setting, or changing it back to "As soon as Yahoo! adds them"?
I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides of this issue, but we should make it clear one way or the other. It can have a major impact on who is available in the draft, so it may affect the decision on how many players each manager may wish to drop from their teams before the draft.
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 23, 2009 14:11:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I was thinking about that one and was leaning toward the old way just to be consistent since it's not all that clear which way is best.
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Post by Former I'm Not Creative (INC) on Mar 23, 2009 14:44:07 GMT -5
Personally I think players added in season (after the start of the draft) should be ineligible until after the next year's draft. It will make rebuilding easier and early draft picks a lot more valuable.
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 23, 2009 16:52:23 GMT -5
Personally I think players added in season (after the start of the draft) should be ineligible until after the next year's draft. It will make rebuilding easier and early draft picks a lot more valuable. Problem w/ that is it adds some logistical problems to how we'd keep track of that extra criteria. If Yahoo offers that option for us, that'd be one thing. But the site does not currently offer that -- maybe it will eventually since it now gives us the other option. |
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Post by Former I'm Not Creative (INC) on Mar 24, 2009 10:34:20 GMT -5
I'm almost positive that Yahoo maintains a list of players that were added since the beginning of the season.
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Post by Former Big Wood GM (Adam) on Mar 24, 2009 12:03:31 GMT -5
Yea you go to the players tab then go to mlb roster changes then click on added and it tell yous when people were added..... they have had this feature for a few years..... but i dont know how long back you can go after the season.
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 24, 2009 13:17:39 GMT -5
That's not really a good way to keep track. Ideally, we'd want Yahoo to offer a feature to simply exclude newly added players from our players pool. If each team owner must look thru a huge list to figure out whether a player belongs in our pool (for pick up), then that's just no good at all. At minimum, we'd need Yahoo to provide a search function for that to be remotely feasible.
Anyway, we do also already set the waiver priority based on draft order (to help out the weaker teams), so it's not like the weaker teams won't have first dibs on newly added players also. It just means team owners need to be reasonably active (and reasonably well informed) in order to pick up top youngsters off waivers -- and I honestly don't see why that should be a real problem since we'd want people to be reasonably active (and aspire to be reasonably well informed) anyhow. I'd think the big thing about rebuilding thru the preseason Draft is having studs available (to the early picks) along w/ the option to strategically gain some extra early picks w/ player drops. If anything, I'd think the early picks are relatively more valuable this way.
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Post by Former I'm Not Creative (INC) on Mar 24, 2009 13:37:19 GMT -5
If that is the issue then in my opinion the problem in the past was Yahoo would add players whenever they felt like it. There was no rhyme or reason to it. Going forward I would be in favor of using the "Wait until called up to Majors" setting.
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 24, 2009 14:04:09 GMT -5
Aye, for in-season, it probably makes more sense to "wait until called up" so everyone can have a better idea when to expect a top youngster to show up. The one bad aspect to this though is that does reduce the value of rebuilding thru the Draft since Yahoo apparently excludes all the imminently coming top prospects for the draft as well (until they are officially called up during the regular season). I just did a quick check to see what top prospects (from Baseball America's top prospects list) would've been included in the draft pool that are not currently included (w/ the "wait..." option). Of the top 30 I checked, I spotted these additions (when the "wait..." option is turned off): * Matt Wieters * Tommy Hanson * Brett Anderson * Neftali Feliz * Trevor Cahill * Lars Anderson * Rick Porcello * Chris Tillman * Brian Matusz * Matt LaPorta * Jarrod Parker Does seem kinda odd that they would include certain of them who are not likely to get called up until late in the season, if at all. *BUT* maybe that's a good thing, if we want to go that route, since there's far less likelihood of a top youngster showing up unexpectedly at midseason. It's interesting to note that they didn't include Pedro Alvarez (nor Gordon Beckham or Justin Smoak) in there though. I wonder if we can turn off the "wait..." option just for our Draft and then turn it back on for the regular season. That would probably be best. Also, perhaps, what we should do in this league is provide a couple freely available resource links to help team owners be more informed about top youngsters. That would probably help some. I just included the Baseball America list above (and the site has various other freely avvailable lists), and I think Rotoworld.com keeps a big list somewhere also. Baseball Prospectus has another one that I use. |
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Post by The Birds (Davey Johnson) on Mar 24, 2009 15:38:59 GMT -5
"I wonder if we can turn off the "wait..." option just for our Draft and then turn it back on for the regular season. That would probably be best."
No, this would not be a good option. Even if yahoo allows you to make that change after the draft, you would end up with a dozen or so "Luke Hochevar" problems. It would be a nightmare trying to keep track of all of these ghosts until they finally make it to the majors.
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 24, 2009 16:43:53 GMT -5
"I wonder if we can turn off the "wait..." option just for our Draft and then turn it back on for the regular season. That would probably be best." No, this would not be a good option. Even if yahoo allows you to make that change after the draft, you would end up with a dozen or so "Luke Hochevar" problems. It would be a nightmare trying to keep track of all of these ghosts until they finally make it to the majors. I was assuming that doing so (if allowed at all) would mean the players added before would stay added. But yeah, if it does what you're thinking, then that would indeed be bad. I can't tell right now how it'd actually work -- or whether it's even allowed. |
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Post by Former Sneaker Pimps (Graham) on Mar 25, 2009 9:41:32 GMT -5
Just turn the "wait" aspect off, period.
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Post by SultansOfSquat (Man) on Mar 27, 2009 4:52:48 GMT -5
All rosters have been loaded into Yahoo now. Please doublecheck your rosters there.
Please note that a few players could not be loaded because Yahoo has not made them available yet. I have marked these players on the team roster pages in this section of the forum site.
Here are the players that could not be added:
For Naps:
RP: Yasuhiko Yabuta **Not currently listed on Yahoo**
RP: Shawn Chacon **Not currently listed on Yahoo**
For Frothy Walruses:
SP: Darrell Rasner **Not currently listed on Yahoo**
Please let me know (preferably before the drop list deadline at 1am ET tonight) if you want to just drop these marginal players to keep things simpler. Thanks.
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Post by The Birds (Davey Johnson) on Mar 27, 2009 8:10:49 GMT -5
Shawn Chacon is a free agent and has been since the middle of last year, so he should be automatically dropped.
Darrell Rasner is in Japan.
Yabuta actually has a major league contract with the Royals, so it's unclear why he is not included in Yahoo, but his pitching has been so bad that he is on the verge of being released.
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